We have a policy to package everything in our organization. I received SPSS 13 to create an unattend setup. After the setup there is an option to authorize the licence. This option connect to the web and then create a signature like Windows XP does with the computer Hardware.

From any installation on different computer we need to reauthorize the serial number but if I reinstall on the same computer there is no problem... but I need to authorize it the first time on this computer.

We have only 2 users.
My first idea was to create a single package and authorize it on both computer but:
1. I cannot authorize more than 3 times a single serial number and as to develop the package, I will need some authorization... I will have a problem.

2. My vendor said me even if I have all CDs, I will be illegal because 1cd= one installation.

Any suggestion would be appreciate?
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Hello francoisracine,

We also have spss 13 in the house and we want to deploy this to some computers. I ran into the same problems that you are having. Our previous version was a network version of spss 12 but if we want a network version of spss 13 the euro´s keep rolling and rolling. Its about 50.000 euro´s so management bought 10 license´s. The package is ready to deploy but i think you always have to register. (Tell me if you know me info on this.)

Option 1:
I deploy the package and publish a shortcut on the users desktop and the register icon to the local administrator. The helpdesk will call the user, login under admin account and dubble click the register button.
Option 2:
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Do you also deploy isscrip before spss 13 or do you have a way to get rid of that?

greetings sejacru
Answered 07/30/2005 by: sejacru
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I think you don't have to register.

What command line are you using to deploy SPSS13? Any documentation about that?
I am still not at this step... probably this week. I took some hour on the software to examine how to install it and to discuss with our vendor.

Do you need to be a local admin to authorize the software?
What is exactly the isscript?
Answered 07/30/2005 by: Francoisracine
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Hello,

I'm deploying through the AD. It is a native msi so no difficulties on that, but when deploying you need isscript to be run furst. this is also on the cd from spss. let me please, know if there's a way to do that.

You have 3 methods to authorise, by phone, be email or by internet. I have chosen for the 3 method, because when deploying, (once per year or so, or when replacing the machine after 3 years), the helpdesk or I logs in locally on the users machine to authorise. I haven't tested it if a user can do this.

Why do you think you don't have to register? Do you do it by e-mail and then you run regmon and filemon when you enter the registration? And put the collected info inside the msi.

To be continued?

Greetings sejacru
Answered 07/31/2005 by: sejacru
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How do you pass the different options and the serial number to the MSI?
What is doing isscript exactly? Usually Isscript is create with installshield but I never used it with other software installation.

Are you using the same serial number for all installation or did you create an installation for every serial number?

I think without authorization the software will run properly for 14 days.
About the registration, it is a check box so I presume you can authorize the serial number without registering.
Answered 07/31/2005 by: Francoisracine
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I have made a mst file with wise package studio. In this mst file i filled in the serial number. Outherwise you even can not install. I have just only one install because i have one serialnumber. After the msi is installed you can use the software for 14 days. Then you have to register. We have 10 user license so i have to register 10 times. I think the registration can not be pushed in the msi.

what do you mean with this:

About the registration, it is a check box so I presume you can authorize the serial number without registering.

as i recall to my first reply there a 3 options to register. I did this by the internet...its the quickest way to do this. How do you think about this?

About isscript, its needs to be installed before you can install spss 13. If ran the autorun from the cd, you don´t see the isscript to be installed, only spss13. I would really want to get rid of isscript but when i changed the msi (there a some actions in the msi script that checks if isscript is installed) the msi is scruwed up. Can anybody help me with this problem?
Answered 07/31/2005 by: sejacru
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I have made a mst file with wise package studio. In this mst file i filled in the serial number.

I will use AdminStudio SMS Edition. What property contain the serial number? Why would'nt be possible to pass that property as a parameter in MSIEXEC?


We have 10 user license so i have to register 10 times. I think the registration can not be pushed in the msi.

No but probably you can create a WINBatch script to do the job. But it would be expensive as you need to authorize only the first time and when you replace the computer. So authorizing to each installation would bring you where there would be no more authorization slot.

During my first tests, I authorize to see what was happening and reauthorize with another method. Then I called SPSS and they said me sorry only one remaining.... It is really bad because in my lab and with our certification process, it will take more than 3 slots...


what do you mean with this:

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About the registration, it is a check box so I presume you can authorize the serial number without registering.

as i recall to my first reply there a 3 options to register. I did this by the internet...its the quickest way to do this. How do you think about this?


I mean,if I remember correctly during the authorization process there is a checkbox to register. I am not sure but I suppose you can uncheck the checkbox and then authorize without registering.


About isscript, its needs to be installed before you can install spss 13. If ran the autorun from the cd, you don´t see the isscript to be installed, only spss13. I would really want to get rid of isscript but when i changed the msi (there a some actions in the msi script that checks if isscript is installed) the msi is scruwed up. Can anybody help me with this problem?

But what exactly is isscript doing?
Is it possible to install isscript unattend?
If its possible to install Isscript unattend then what exactly is the problem?
Answered 07/31/2005 by: Francoisracine
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This is how you can install spss13 with msiexec on the commandline with a property.

msiexec /i spss13.msi SerialNumber=XXXXXXX. SerialNumber is a property within the msi.

What isscript is doing i dont know. I believe its a engine, some sort of driver that some msi needs (that are made by installshield). I have been searching what isscipt is but i can not find it anywhere.

By the way, have you seen this? Maybe they can help us further.

[link]http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=9841&mpage=1&key=isscript⛽[/link]
Answered 07/31/2005 by: sejacru
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Would it be possible to install iscript, install SPSS and uninstall ISScript?
Answered 07/31/2005 by: Francoisracine
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IsScript is already in MSI format which can be extracted from the original installation media.
You could first install this with you distribution tool and then the product that requires the IsScript engine.
It is unnecessary to uninstall the IsScript engine afterwards due to other products that requires the engine to correctly install in the future.
Answered 08/01/2005 by: AngelD
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I never met a software asking for ISSCRIPT before. Very strange.
Answered 08/01/2005 by: Francoisracine
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Isnt it possible to install each time isscrip if a application ask for it????
We deploy everything through the ad with gpo. One application per gpo. In cause of spss we have offcourse 2 apps in the gpo.

I believe this works, atleast i have done it and nobody complains.

did you read the new post in this form?

[link]http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=9841[/link]
Answered 08/01/2005 by: sejacru
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Okey, my bad :)

If you use Admin Studio you could do as mr Bladerun described: "- Use Admin Studio professional to convert it to a standard MSI"

If there is no solution to the IsScript problem I would repackage the whole thing.
Don't we just hate those IsScript requirements ;)
Answered 08/01/2005 by: AngelD
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ORIGINAL: AngelD

Okey, my bad :)

If you use Admin Studio you could do as mr Bladerun described: "- Use Admin Studio professional to convert it to a standard MSI"


What and why do i need to convert it to a standard msi??????? Spss is a vendor msi so repackaging is not neccessary. I should only repackage when you want to get rid of isscript. I have tried to repackaged the msi, but the msi is screwed up. I think just leave it as the way it is and install isscript every time its needed.
Answered 08/01/2005 by: sejacru
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I don't think converting this will meen "repackaging" the application just convert to standard msi which will remove the requirement of IsScript and build the MSI as just another MSI not build on the old way that installshield MSI used to do.

But I'm not using Admin Studio so someone else would have to verify this for me!
Answered 08/01/2005 by: AngelD
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In our case:

[link]http://www.spss.com/spss/licensing.htm[/link]

Entering the authorization code. Instead of a license code, you will receive an authorization code on paper and will be required to enter it after the installation process. If you are connected to the Internet during installation, the application will contact the SPSS license server on the Internet and obtain your license (Please note: this will be the only time that the software communicates over the Internet with SPSS Inc. While you are using the application, SPSS will NOT be transmitting ANY information back to SPSS Inc.) If the computer used to install the software doesn't have Internet access, you will need to communicate with SPSS Customer Service to obtain a license code.

If it is possible i want this inside my msi. I don´t think this can be done...but you never you if somebody has done it. So for now we push isscript and spss. The helpdesk calls the user and they will do the authorization for the user. so be it[8|]
Answered 08/01/2005 by: sejacru
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Oke i understand.
So with admin studio you can convert it so you dont need isscript.

can anybody help me with this????
Answered 08/01/2005 by: sejacru
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I am a little lost.

Why converting it as a standard MSI?
Did someone ask SPSS about that problem and what answer did they gave?
What if, like me, you don't have Admin Studio?
Answered 08/01/2005 by: Francoisracine
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I have wise package studio so i don't know this feature, if there is in admin studio?
appertly admin studio can convert the msi to a standard msi....i think admin studio removes isscrip. .......so my question is....why does installshield puts it in the msi in the first place?
Answered 08/01/2005 by: sejacru
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