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no offense sameer, but why in the hell should anyone help you take away our jobs so that some corporation can save a few bucks? more than likely you'd screw it up and it'd have to come back onshore anyway, but wtf?..... really now

ORIGINAL: sameer_p_h

Hi All,

I am very new to software re-packaging.

I need to help to get started to re-package an MSI from microsoft. I want to learn how to create a transform.

Pls help me.

Thanks,
Sameer



Well, first things first, you need to make a distinction between repackaging and creating transforms, two very different things which you would know if you had the benefit of some training. If your current employer is not willing to provide that it is frankly irresponsible of them to expect you to 'start out cold' on this.

ORIGINAL: aogilmor

no offense sameer, but why in the hell should anyone help you take away our jobs so that some corporation can save a few bucks? more than likely you'd screw it up and it'd have to come back onshore anyway, but wtf?..... really now


@owen
Agree with *almost* all you said and it would have been 100% *if* you knew for certain that sameer is indeed working offshore - given that the sameer has only made one post on appdeploy (at the time of writing), I can't see any firm evidence for that myself (unless you know more about the OP than the rest of us (?).

Corporations will. and frequently do try and "save a few bucks" - that's the nature of packaging, and it makes my blood boil, frankly. IMHO I think it's the job of seasoned packagers on this forum (such as ourselves) to point out the risks that newbie packagers face getting out of their depth on the 'say-so' of some employer, the latter with little or no understanding of just exactly what producing a robust package entails.

At my own company, we have used offshore teams to great success, I might add, but in my experience one always has to retain a level of control and be committed to providing ongoing training/guidance where needed, rather than just throwing packaging assignments 'over the wall' and expecting it to all work out.


Spartacus

2 points to Owen for raising this.
And, Spartacus - You deserve some goog ratings for this sensible reply.
2 points credited to your score.

Sameer,
If adequate training is not available, get the basics first at below link.
http://nexus.realtimepublishers.com/dgwit.php

'The Definitive Guide to Windows Installer' by Phi Wilson is the most suggested item on AppDeploy if you want to make a career here.

I've been reading and contributing to Appdeploy for several years now and I must say recently I've been feeling the same frustrations that Owen seems to be feeling too!

Infact I'd stopped reading because it was annoying me. The amount of posts which were so obviously put up here without any prior research or any attempt to find the solution themselves! basically asking other people to do the posters job!

I have posted questions but not until exhausting all other possible ways I can think of to find a solution, It's just down right lazy! and it does *seem* to be mostly from people which would come from an outsourcing offshore operation!

Well said Owen [:D]

To limit the discussions around technical topics only (and, also to support the base purpose of these forums);
Vote if you want to - for the below idea:
http://kace.uservoice.com/forums/82721-appdeploy/suggestions/1539261-newcomers-vs-experienced
With all the different views it generates, AppDeploy is going to be a nice experience for everyone.

It's not so much newcomers, everyone has to start somewhere that's no problem!

It's the extreme laziness that gets annoying!

I have learnt many new thing from friends at appdeploy


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