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04/03/2019 340 views

Hello, I am the Lead Tech Support Specialist at a university. I am looking at moving 200+ computers from windows 7 pro to windows 10 LTSB for our AD migration project. I need to be able to move programs and profiles, if possible. I need a solution that won't break to bank and will cause minimal to zero down time to my users. Have any of you come across a viable solutions that you would recommend?

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7 "Pro" to 10 ltsb, ltsc or any enterprise will not do a inplace upgrade due to that are different version class of the OS.  You will have to pull a migration of the user files and reinstall the programs.  7 enterprise will upgrade 10 enterprise and windows 7 pro will upgrade to windows 10 pro

Answered 04/03/2019 by: SMal.tmcc
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  • Just thinking out loud on this one, but doesn't Windows 10 have Anytime Upgrade capabilities? If so, wouldn't Perry be able to upgrade from 7 Pro to 10 Pro and then do an Anytime Upgrade?
    • Jordan, That must be what happens with going from Pro to Enterprise/Education. It won't work for LTSB though. I think the core is altered too much for it to allow it, but I could just be doing something wrong.
    • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Anytime_Upgrade
  • Thank you for your reply. I have successfully done an in place upgrade from Win 7 pro to either Win 10 Education or Enterprise. I forget which. However, I am currently looking for a product such as PCmover or PCTrans to move Users, programs and files. They, as well as others, claim that it is possible. I guess we shall see.
    • From our experience it will upgrade pro to enterprise or ltsc but it deletes your files and programs, so it is really just reusing the disk partitioning. Those 3rd party program harvest registry settings and files prior to the upgrade and then reinjects those settings, so that is most likely your best route. there is no pure MS solution.
      • I talked to our field techs yesterday and they wrote a program that utilizes the mig utility (Windows Kits\10\Assessment and Deployment Kit\User State Migration Tool\amd64) to pull the users files and the mig report. They use the mig report to assign MI's to reinstall any extra software that is not on the standard image
    • If an in-place upgrade is not what you are after, is it because you are replacing the old Windows 7 computers with new Windows 10 units? If not I think an in-place upgrade is still your best bet.

      I have not used those types of programs in a while, but I found they are not all they are cracked up to be. Many time I ended up reinstalling the programs on the new device because not all the components required were moved --- Just my opinion....

      That said, PC Mover has been around for a bit and would probably be one of the better ones out there.
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I've been able to go from Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 Ent, you just have to specify the Product Key in the Switch especially with the new media which keeps Applications & Data.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/upgrade/windows-10-upgrade-paths

When you upgrade from Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 LTSC Enterprise 1809 it will not keep the applications, it will store data within the Windows.old folder.

*In-place upgrade from Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10 semi-annual channel to Windows 10 LTSC is not supported. Note: Windows 10 LTSC 2015 did not block this upgrade path. This was corrected in the Windows 10 LTSC 2016 release, which will now only allow data-only and clean install options.*

Answered 04/03/2019 by: Ziggi
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  • We are getting confused on versions of win 10
    Windows 10 LTSC/LTSB versions
    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019
    Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSC 2019
    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016
    Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSB 2016
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB N
    • misread, thanks SMal.
      • Too many flavors! no matter you agree
        -yes on data
        -no on applications
        for what he wants to do
  • Would it be possible to upgrade to directly to LTSB/C 2015 , then simply run windows update to get to the current version?
    • You can try doing a 2 step upgrade. Choose a system and go into control panel and use the backup and restore feature to make a snapshot of the drive so if it fails you can roll back to the original image. use the "create a system image" on the left and that will create a backup of the current state of the system and backup the entire contents of the drive. Then go ahead and try to upgrade to ltsb 2015 If that works then upgrade ltsc 2019 and see what happens. If it fails you can boot to a install DVD and choose repair and find the "restore system image" and put everything back to where it was prior.

      LTSB\LTSC versons will not upgrade automatically like the regular windows channel. that is the purpose for LTS versions they are designed to stay the same for 10 years. Typically you would use the Mig utility to harvest the users files and profiles, get the mig report on installed software. reimage to LTSC2019 migrate the users files and use the mig report to assign MI or labels that trigger installs for their software
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We sucesfully migrated 6000 PC's from 7 to 10 (complete reinstall) over about a year but did a manual user profile migration AND a full disk backup for security!
For the user profiles we used USMT through a GUI from EhlerTech. (Pure manual labor but with full control of data ;-)

If you intend to run the profile migrations  through CASE, MDT or SCCM, Ehlertech has by far the best updated XML files for USMT as well and they are free to download.

- Gina

Answered 04/23/2019 by: Gmelford
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