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Mac Imaging

Has anyone got the netboot for the mac working on the KBOX yet? I have done all that was specified in the instructions to create the Source CD etc but my mac will not boot.
The flashing globe appears when i press n then the apple logo comes with the spinning globe for a few seconds then the cirular indicator comes up for about 1-2 mins. The the mac will just restart.

Thanks

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Posted by: sdickenson 14 years ago
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Mine's working just fine. Used an OS X 10.5.6 CD and am successfully netbooting first and second gen silver iMacs and a few white Intel iMac.
Posted by: mattygarland 14 years ago
Third Degree Blue Belt
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did you follow the instructions that were on the kbox? Ive tried uploading the source CD 3 times using 10.5.4 cd and it doesnt work. when i put the mac in verbose mode (cmd+v) i can it gets a DHCP and it looks to the KBOX for the .dmg.
It has for about 2 mins then just reboots.

The macs will netboot the xserver fine.
Posted by: mdallen 14 years ago
Senior Yellow Belt
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I'm having the same problem. I have a MacBookPro and I'm using the 10.5.2 CD and it doesn't work either (same symptoms). Anybody found a resolution for this problem?
Posted by: mattygarland 14 years ago
Third Degree Blue Belt
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Still no resolution to this im affraid. Ive used a 10.5 and a 10.5.4 disk and tried uploading the image several times. The Kace engineers are still trying to find out whats going on.
Posted by: serrinca 14 years ago
Senior Yellow Belt
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What version of the OS are you using on the machine from which you are uploading. I had issues when uploading a 10.5 CD when I had 10.6 on my computer, I had to upload from a machine that had 10.5 on it.
Posted by: mdallen 14 years ago
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I have a MacBook Pro running 10.5.2. I have uploaded the following CDs to the KBOX and still no success getting the operation to work: 10.5.2 (original CD that came with my MacBook Pro), 10.5.6 CD (No problems uploading, but still will not boot my MacBook to the imaging menu via netboot.
Posted by: serrinca 14 years ago
Senior Yellow Belt
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The CDs that come with the Mac are Hardware dependent, which may be your issue. Do you have a retail copy of Leopard? That is the version you will want to use, as they are not hardware dependent.
Posted by: mattygarland 14 years ago
Third Degree Blue Belt
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I didnt realise that. We basically have a 30 imac in one room (all under the same order) and 4 in another (a seperate order. So are you saying that the disks are tied down to a specific mac? or a specific model?
Posted by: sdickenson 14 years ago
Senior Yellow Belt
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In my experience, the OS X installation CD's that ship with Mac's are tied to the computer model they shipped with, but only for installation purposes. I have successfully installed a "OEM" OS X install CD on a computer it was not intended for by running the installation on the shipped computer but using the second computer as the hard drive in target disk mode.

I'm not certain how this would affect a netboot image, however. I can say that my Mac's are successfully net booting using the directions from Kace, but I used a retail OS X 10.5.6 CD to create my netboot image.
Posted by: serrinca 14 years ago
Senior Yellow Belt
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The CDs (DVDs) that ship with a mac are for that specific model. True, as sdickensen mentioned, you could target mode a different mac and install, as long as the main machine is that specific model. You need to use the retail DVD of Leopard to get this working. Make sure to upload the DVD from a 10.5 machine, I had issues when I uploaded from a 10.6 machine.
Posted by: mnichols 14 years ago
Yellow Belt
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I just started imaging Macs on our KBOX and followed the suggestions and it worked pretty well. I used a 10.5.? machine along with a 10.5.1 DVD to create the NetBoot Boot Environment. I downloaded the Desktop Source CD Uploader to create this Boot Environment. It really worked smoothly. I did stick to the suggestion from the Konference to keep the machine OS the same as the Boot Environment OS.
Posted by: mattygarland 14 years ago
Third Degree Blue Belt
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did you use the dvd that came with the mac?
Posted by: chrisgrim 14 years ago
Senior Purple Belt
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mattygarland,

Can you give us details? Which build number of KBOX are you using? How are you uploading the netboot media to the KBOX? You should be using the CD Uploader GUI tool for the Mac downloaded from the build of the kbox you are using. Were up able to build the netboot image? In the uploader log, you should have seen a bunch of lines about installing packages before the files are uploaded to the KBOX. Once all that is done, you should have a netboot image. To add to other posts, it is important to understand the versioning of the Mac OS DVDs. Typically, the MacOS is backwards compatible but not forwards compatible. A rule of thumb that I presented at the user conference is to start with the gray media of your newest Mac model. That should boot on any older Macs that support that operating system - ie. if it is an Intel Mac, it won't boot older PowerPC's. To do that, you need to make sure you have retail (fat) media to support all of your machines. Also, until version 3.1 comes out, we only support 10.5.x netboot environments, so you need to use a 10.5.x media and build it on an 10.5.x Mac. Once built, that netboot will be able to image any Mac that can boot into 10.5.x, including 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6. In 3.1, you will be able to build both Leopard (10.5) and Snow Leopard (10.6) netboot environments.

Hopefully, that helps.

Chris...
Posted by: aawilks 14 years ago
Yellow Belt
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The problem you are having most likely is due to your computers being on a different subnet than your KACE server. Netboot will not work across subnets. I have figured out a work around that can be done a few different ways.

Method one: Open up the terminal on your mac from applications\utilities and type the following command:

sudo bless --netboot --server bsdp://##.##.##.### (change the ### to the Ip Address of your server)

Reboot machine and hold down N key to boot from your KACE Server.

Method two: go here http://www.bombich.com/software/nbas.html and download Netboot Across Subnets a free utility that will let you create a package file that can be pushed to multiple machines using Apple Remote Desktop or other methods, that will set the netboot and flag it on next boot.

I have been working on trying to use the KBOX 1000 box to push out a mac package and install it and then reboot which would easily let me image macs accross my network but have been unsuccessful with that portion maybe someone can help me out with that and we can get some cool stuff going here.
Posted by: aawilks 14 years ago
Yellow Belt
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Also one more thing....

I read a few post above that you can netboot ok from your xserve or mac server. You can only really have one netboot server broadcasting on a single subnet you will need to shutdown that service on your current subnet unless you direct the traffic to an IP address like I showed above.

Just another tid bit for those that are having trouble and only have a single subnet network. I myself have nearly 140 different subnets so this work around is a must for me unless I can to hand carry my mac labs back to my server subnet.
Posted by: knowmad 14 years ago
Senior Yellow Belt
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aawilks has the right of it.... more info here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21323?viewlocale=en_US
and here
http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20080801075855301&query=netboot
Posted by: scriptingninja 12 years ago
5th Degree Black Belt
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Check out this link http://www.kace.com/support/kb/index.php?action=artikel&cat=66&id=1016&artlang=en . Also it is important to mention that the restriction of netbooting across subnets is due to Apple Netboot not specific to KACE.
Posted by: ronfalkoff 12 years ago
Green Belt
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We are able to netboot across subnets. We have ip routing enabled for the switch. In the specific vlan we have ip helper-address pointing back to the DHCP server and the command ip igmp command. Hope this helps!!!
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