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Google Apps & KBOX SMTP sever

Hello,

Just curious if there are any users out there utilizing Google Apps - Premier Edition and the KBOX 1100? Just wondering how you configured SMTP to work with your KBOX 1100. I know Google uses SMTP, but it doesn't use Port 25. It requires authentication and uses SSL.

ZT

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Posted by: berrym 13 years ago
Yellow Belt
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We use google apps too and have just got the kbox, this is what I did:
One thing is that you use SMTP not POP, as you are using premium you can fwd emails sent to particular email address to an SMTP server (http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=175745).

on my firewall I set an SMTP route for the kbox in and out. (SMTP only - you should set the route to only allow from google)
then I crated a new DNS entry for the kbox using the NAT address set on the firewall (kbox.domain.com) (just an A record not an MX record as google will still receive the messages)
I think by default the kbox will be an SMTP server.

Google apps you can set an alternate email route for each email address, I created servicedesk@domain.com and removed all existing routes and added and new one servicedesk@kbox.domain.com now and set the Change SMTP envelope option to true. This tells google to route all emails sent to servicedesk@domain.com to servicedesk@kbox.domain.com. Then kbox takes over.

No problems so far running like this for a week now.
If anything is not clear let me know, I will try and explain a little better.
Keep safe
Matt

Comments:
  • am I correct in saying that the Kbox has it's own SMTP server? so anymail routed to its ip will get queued? - eatonjb 11 years ago
Posted by: airwolf 14 years ago
Red Belt
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Try port 465.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13287
Posted by: jkatkace 14 years ago
Purple Belt
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The problem is that the KBOX can't be configured to use 465 for outgoing email OOB.
Posted by: badamson 13 years ago
Senior Yellow Belt
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I like berrym's approach, and may implement that later. When we migrated to Google Apps, we ran into the nasty surprise of a lot of legacy apps & devices not being able to send with credentials or via a different port....so I had to setup a Virtual SMTP service on one of our win servers (behind a firewall, of course) to act as a relay. All of these apps & devices send emails to the Virtual SMTP...it then relays all of that email with credentials (we used do.not.reply@domain.com) through Google Apps. Since this was already setup, I pointed the Kbox to send through this same SMTP relay. This only works for outgoing emails at this point, so I might be following berrym's instructions if setting up outgoing emails to servicedesk.
Posted by: van.k.jones 13 years ago
Orange Belt
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Thanks Berrym. We implemented your solution today and it's working well for us.
Posted by: ScottinOkla 12 years ago
Orange Belt
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I have a few questions, if I may...

I am able to successfully email my KBox and it does what it is supposed to (auto create a ticket). My problem is getting emails from my KBox. My outgoing emails never arrive to my desired recipient. Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting? I have checked SPAM, etc. I think it is a setting in the KBox.

Should I not point the SMTP traffic to smtp.google.com? If I uncheck that box does it automatically use it's own SMTP server?
Posted by: ScottinOkla 12 years ago
Orange Belt
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Bump...
Posted by: ScottinOkla 12 years ago
Orange Belt
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Ok after many hours of scouring the internet, and most of it leading right back to this forum, I have found the troubleshooting page inside KBox. Upon running the troubleshooting I have this log file:

Domain names and usernames have been changed to protect the innocent [:)]


LOG: MAIN
<= support@k1000.mydomain.com U=www P=local S=414
delivering 1QIKik-0005JN-Gz
Connecting to gmail-smtp-msa.l.google.com [74.125.95.109]:25 ... connected
SMTP<< 220 mx.google.com ESMTP f7sm1340125ibn.58
SMTP>> EHLO k1000.mydomain.com
SMTP<< 250-mx.google.com at your service, [164.58.170.218]
250-SIZE 35882577
250-8BITMIME
250-STARTTLS
250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
SMTP>> STARTTLS
SMTP<< 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
SMTP>> EHLO k1000.mydomain.com
SMTP<< 250-mx.google.com at your service, [164.58.170.218]
250-SIZE 35882577
250-8BITMIME
250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XOAUTH
250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<support@k1000.mydomain.com> SIZE=1448
SMTP<< 530-5.5.1 Authentication Required. Learn more at
530 5.5.1 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 f7sm1340125ibn.58
SMTP>> QUIT
LOG: MAIN
** username@mydomain.com R=smart_route T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<support@k1000.mydomain.com> SIZE=1448: host gmail-smtp-msa.l.google.com [74.125.95.109]: 530-5.5.1 Authentication Required. Learn more at\n530 5.5.1 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 f7sm1340125ibn.58
LOG: MAIN
<= <> R=1QIKik-0005JN-Gz U=mailnull P=local S=1532
delivering 1QIKik-0005JQ-Vf
LOG: MAIN
Completed
LOG: MAIN
=> support <support@k1000.mydomain.com> R=helpdesk T=helpdesk_pipe
LOG: MAIN
Completed


I have double and triple checked that I have the smtp.gmail.com feature turned OFF, unchecked and removed the value. Who can help me understand what is happening and going wrong in this log file?

Comments:
  • Currently the K1000 does not support SMTP authentication using TLS/STARTTLS port 587 or SSL port 465. So you will need to setup an internal SMTP server that can provide SMTP authentication to relay outgoing email from the K1 to hosted email servers like Google or Exchange 365.

    To retrieve emails from these email servers, you need to use version 5.4 on the K1 since it will allow POP3 with SSL to pull down email to the K1.

    A future version of the K1 will have support for SMTP authentication. - KevinG 11 years ago
Posted by: cblake 12 years ago
Red Belt
0
Please contact support.
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