Services in vendor MSI
I am working on an MSI provided by For The Record. http://www.fortherecord.com/page.asp?PageID=243 The msi has been set to require that you run setup.exe and not the msi directly. I have worked past that part and I can get the msi to install most of the way until it fails after it installs a service and tries to start that service. I opened the msi in orca and looked at the service control table and noticed that the event for the service was set to 1. I changed it to 2 and now the msi will complete the install without any errors but if you manually try to start the service it fails. Is there a way to disect the setup.exe to see what it is doing?
Any ideas? I'm starting to really get annoyed with vendors who provide programs packaged in an msi but require you to run setup.exe to install the program. [:@] It seems it's becoming a fad. Also the setup.exe does not support any type of silent install. I hate the idea of having to repackage an msi.
Thanks
Joe
Any ideas? I'm starting to really get annoyed with vendors who provide programs packaged in an msi but require you to run setup.exe to install the program. [:@] It seems it's becoming a fad. Also the setup.exe does not support any type of silent install. I hate the idea of having to repackage an msi.
Thanks
Joe
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Posted by:
spartacus
17 years ago
Does the System Event Log give any additional information as to why the service failed to start ? Events from the Service Control Manager (if there are any) may help you.
Also, you could try the following. Install the application using the legacy installer (setup.exe) and inspect the following key in using regedit
[font="Courier New"]HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\<Name of Service>
Next, on another clean machine, install the application using just the MSI (use the one where you amended the service control table to allow the install to complete) and inspect the same registry key.
The registry value "Start" under this key will probably be different when you compare the two, but any other differences are what really are of interest here.
Check the ImagePath value under the above key and make sure whichever file is set in this value actually exists on the system following the second installation outlined above.
Regards,
Spartacus
Also, you could try the following. Install the application using the legacy installer (setup.exe) and inspect the following key in using regedit
[font="Courier New"]HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\<Name of Service>
Next, on another clean machine, install the application using just the MSI (use the one where you amended the service control table to allow the install to complete) and inspect the same registry key.
The registry value "Start" under this key will probably be different when you compare the two, but any other differences are what really are of interest here.
Check the ImagePath value under the above key and make sure whichever file is set in this value actually exists on the system following the second installation outlined above.
Regards,
Spartacus
Posted by:
joedown
17 years ago
I checked in the registry where you suggested and discovered that there is a whole key missing. Adding the missing key does not appear to fix the problem. Who knows what else could be missing.[:'(]
Playing with this app I have discovered what I think is an install script msi. I would like to find some more information on what this means. But it looks like these are not true MSIs and cannot be installed as such since the logic is contained within the setup.exe?
Thanks
Joe
Playing with this app I have discovered what I think is an install script msi. I would like to find some more information on what this means. But it looks like these are not true MSIs and cannot be installed as such since the logic is contained within the setup.exe?
Thanks
Joe
Posted by:
nheim
17 years ago
Hi joe,
this is an Installshield9 MSI. You where on the right track, it requires ISScript9.Msi as prerequisite. But be aware of the problems that arise with the install of this type of MSI's. Please search around this forum to get feeling for this.
Regards, Nick
this is an Installshield9 MSI. You where on the right track, it requires ISScript9.Msi as prerequisite. But be aware of the problems that arise with the install of this type of MSI's. Please search around this forum to get feeling for this.
Regards, Nick
Posted by:
joedown
17 years ago
I've been doing some reading about these ISScript files but it hasn't really been clear to me what the best practice is for making these install silently. Doing a snapshot does not seem to be the right method. Following the article here http://support.installshield.com/kb/view.asp?articleid=Q108166 does not work for this application although it has worked in the past for other programs that required an isscriptX.msi to install. BTW this one uses isscript1150.msi.
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