Hello all,

i tried to unnattend isntall nero and i did it the way this page said...

http://itninja.com/link/techical-guide:-silent-install-for-storagecentral-srm-5.07

but i dont get it.
It just doesn´t work .I have tried everything written down here.Now all i got is
"you have to start setupx"
my *.bat file looks like:

msiexec /Inero.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst;nerocustom.mst DONOTRUNSETUPX="1" STARTPARAM="CallFromExe" MSISOURCEFILE="nero.msi" /qb! My Nero Version is 7.8.5.0

and i try to install it on WinXP I already worked with ORCA and build a costum mst file but there is no difference.



please help

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not that i have tried this but looking at your path would indicate that you would require a nero.msi also for that to work.

try changing the last path to match your actual msi path
Answered 04/18/2007 by: jmcfadyen
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there is no space between your /i and nero.msi
Answered 04/18/2007 by: Tone
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ooops i totally missed that.
Answered 04/18/2007 by: jmcfadyen
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Hello and a good morning,

well thanks for the fast answers, but sorry guy´s changing the path and making a free space both things did not help.
all i get is this message which tells me that i have to start the install from the setupx.exe
this message appears also when i try to start the install by doubleklicking the nero.msi.

What i also have tried is:
SetupX.exe ADDLOCAL=all TRANSFORMS=1031.mst SERIALNUM"xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx" /norestart /qb!

this works so far but as you can see it installs everything and the thing with the Serial did not work either.so i have to put it in by myself.
i have read about the possibility to install only the features by putting them after the addlocal but this does not work as i expected.i think because i do not know the right names of the single features but i´m not sure.
Answered 04/19/2007 by: senselti
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ORIGINAL: Tone

there is no space between your /i and nero.msi


and there is no need for a space either.
Answered 04/19/2007 by: KPrinz
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ORIGINAL: senselti
well thanks for the fast answers, but sorry guy´s changing the path and making a free space both things did not help.
all i get is this message which tells me that i have to start the install from the setupx.exe
this message appears also when i try to start the install by doubleklicking the nero.msi.


Well the behaviour is ok, when you doubleclick the msi, that is intended. But those parameters you used gotta work! Strange...


ORIGINAL: senselti
What i also have tried is:
SetupX.exe ADDLOCAL=all TRANSFORMS=1031.mst SERIALNUM"xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx" /norestart /qb!

this works so far but as you can see it installs everything and the thing with the Serial did not work either.so i have to put it in by myself.


Ah, the correct property for the serial is serialnum_userval you might want to try that.
And you can drop the /norestart as there is a custom action overriding this property anyway.

so try SetupX.exe ADDLOCAL=all TRANSFORMS=1031.mst SERIALNUM_userval="xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx" /qb!
(the 1031.mst gives you a German localised install)
Answered 04/19/2007 by: KPrinz
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ORIGINAL: senselti
but i dont get it.
It just doesn´t work .I have tried everything written down here.Now all i got is
"you have to start setupx"
my *.bat file looks like:


You might have goofed up your sources? Try again with a fresh extracted setup. I am packaging Nero at the moment and this works fine for me. (Only I get errors with the Nero scout thing now, but that's a different problem)

Answered 04/19/2007 by: KPrinz
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i have now tried it the third time the way you discribed it.i have created a custom.mst i changed everything.for every test i have downloaded a new nero but there is no installation of it.

I run this .bat:
start/wait msiexec /Inero.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst;custom.mst DONOTRUNSETUPX="1" STARTPARAM="CallFromExe" MSISOURCEFILE="nero.msi" /qb!

and it starts looking very well by configuring Nero and then suddenly and without an errormessage(this is a small achievement) it stops

Maybe there is still something i forget by creating the mst.I do not know.Is it possible to have the wrong nero.msi?Or is it wrong to work in the unpacked folder?
Answered 04/19/2007 by: senselti
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ORIGINAL: senselti

i have now tried it the third time the way you discribed it.i have created a custom.mst i changed everything.for every test i have downloaded a new nero but there is no installation of it.

I run this .bat:
start/wait msiexec /Inero.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst;custom.mst DONOTRUNSETUPX="1" STARTPARAM="CallFromExe" MSISOURCEFILE="nero.msi" /qb!

and it starts looking very well by configuring Nero and then suddenly and without an errormessage(this is a small achievement) it stops

Maybe there is still something i forget by creating the mst.I do not know.Is it possible to have the wrong nero.msi?Or is it wrong to work in the unpacked folder?



add /l*v path\to\yourlog.txt to get a logging of what happens. It might be that you get an Error 1603, fail to apply transform. When you get this most probably your sources are toast. Sometimes the copying out of temp just doesn't get you the right stuff. I'm successful at a rate of 1 out of 2 (extracting from temp that is).
Answered 04/19/2007 by: KPrinz
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oh, and by the way: make sure your directx is 9.0c, because the nero silent inst will not make the prerequisite check!
\Redist\DirectX\dxsetup.exe /silent
Answered 04/19/2007 by: KPrinz
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Can there be somthing else going wrong?i packed it out several times and i allways get 1603.
Tomorrow i will try it with a new machine maybe this helps.

For now thanks for your help i will stay close to this but today it is enough.
Answered 04/19/2007 by: senselti
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quick check: can you successfully run a silent inst with just the 1031.mst?
this is when i discovered that i had a sources problem
Answered 04/19/2007 by: KPrinz
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Hello,

it´s Monday i am back again like i am back my troublesome nero is also still there and it seem that it gives me some more headache.I tried it with an new workstation and without the "costum.mst" and i have added the directx install.
nothing worked.



my .bat looks like that:

start/wait Redist\DirectX\dxsetup.exe /silent
start/wait msiexec /Inero.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst;new_custom.mst DONOTRUNSETUPX="1" STARTPARAM="CallFromExe" MSISOURCEFILE="nero.msi" /qb! /L*v mylog.txt

and the last lines of my *.log file:

Property(S): SourceDirTmp = C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\NeroDemo12547\Cab\
Property(S): AdvrCntrPath = C:\DOKUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOKALE~1\Temp\nro.tmp\AdvrCntr2.dll
Property(S): SERIALNUM_EXPIRED = 0
Property(S): SERIALNUM_OTHERFROMTHISFAMILY = 0
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Note: 1: 1708
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Transforming table Error.

MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Transforming table Error.

MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Error 3: -2147287038
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Transforming table Error.

MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Transforming table Error.

MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Error 3: -2147287038
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:218]: Produkt: Nero 7 -- Die Installation ist fehlgeschlagen.

MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:234]: Attempting to delete file C:\WINDOWS\Installer\c0640.mst
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:234]: Unable to delete the file. LastError = 32
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:234]: Attempting to delete file C:\WINDOWS\Installer\c0641.mst
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:234]: Unable to delete the file. LastError = 32
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:234]: Cleaning up uninstalled install packages, if any exist
MSI (s) (7C:DC) [13:40:38:234]: MainEngineThread is returning 1603
MSI (s) (7C:B8) [13:40:38:234]: Destroying RemoteAPI object.
MSI (s) (7C:E0) [13:40:38:234]: Custom Action Manager thread ending.
=== Protokollierung beendet: 23.04.2007 13:40:38 ===
MSI (c) (44:D4) [13:40:38:265]: Decrementing counter to disable shutdown. If counter >= 0, shutdown will be denied. Counter after decrement: -1
MSI (c) (44:D4) [13:40:38:265]: MainEngineThread is returning 1603
=== Verbose logging stopped: 23.04.2007 13:40:38 ===
Answered 04/23/2007 by: senselti
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Are you sure that directx are installed?
Answered 04/24/2007 by: THEMASTER
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Good Morning,

yes i am sure.i installed it "manuel" and with my script.And dxdiag tells me i am right.Maybe there is something you would say it must be without saying, i did not have recognized or installed or activated or i make a mistake using orca.
I can´t find thi rar* file or the dll or i didn´t switch out some of the features.

I also figured out a way using autoit but i don´t like it.Using Win XP isn´t the problem i hope?
Answered 04/25/2007 by: senselti
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Hi Akbar,
look for the other Nero logfile beside the MSI log. It's in your temp folder in this location: .\nro.log\log\nsi.nrd.log.txt
Open it and scroll the end. Most likely you will see there which operation crashes.
If not, publish the last 10-20 lines here.
Hope this leads you on the right track.
Regards, Nick
Answered 04/25/2007 by: nheim
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Hello nheim,

i´ve found the file you told me and after a half hour starring at it like fool trying to understand how a clock works i woke up and thought, "you can´t know everything".Here are the last lines of this nsi.nrd.log.txt:

/D=C:\Programme\Nero\Nero 7\Nero PhotoShow 4
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: GetSourceDir resolving source directory for product to 'C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\NeroDemo12518\'.
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CRedistApplicationManager::LogDebugVariables
RedistName: Nero PhotoShow
ApplicatonInstaller: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\NeroDemo12518\Redist\Nero PhotoShow\setup.exe
FeatureName NeroPhotoShowF7904ECD
GMRedistName: Redist\Nero PhotoShow\setup.exe
RegApplication: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Nero PhotoShow Express 4
RegApplicationValue: InstallLocation
RegApplicaionUninstallKey: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Nero PhotoShow Express 4
AdditionalCommandLineParameters: /SUITE_INSTALL /D=C:\Programme\Nero\Nero 7\Nero PhotoShow 4
ErrorMsgAppNotFound: Nero PhotoShow-Installationsprogramm nicht gefunden. Installation von Nero PhotoShow nicht möglich.
fIsFeatureStateChanged 0
fDoNotRemoveOnMajorUpdate:1
NewState: -1
NewAction -1
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CRedistsManager::RefreshRedistsStates
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CRedistsManager::RefreshRedistsStates. Install mode detected. Skipping refresh.
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: GetSourceDir resolving source directory for product to 'C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\NeroDemo12518\'.
07/04/25 12:54:39 INFO : CSippsManager::CSippsManager(). Skipped SIPSS installer presence checking...
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CSippsManager::FlushSippsFeatureState. Static variables states: 0 -1 -1
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: ~CRedistsManager: flushing feature states
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CRedistApplicationManager::FlushApplicationFeatureState. [Static] Variables states: 0 -1 -1
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: MigrateOldFeatureStates start
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CRegKeyExImpl::QueryValueSize(). Query value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ahead\Installation\Families\Nero 7\\IncExcRegFeatures result: (2) Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden. [8|]maybe this,i don´t want it either [8|]
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: No old feature states found that need to be migrated.
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: MigrateOldFeatureStates done
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: RestoreLastFeatureStates started
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: RestoreLastFeatureStates done
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: DestroySharedMemory Started...
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: DestroySharedMemory return
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: Setting property 'CA_CRASH_FLAG' from 'ACTIVE' to 'NOT_ACTIVE'
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: Property "CA_CRASH_FLAG" is in Property table and it's will be get with SQL-query.
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CMSIDatabase::CloseMSIDatabase(): MsiCloseHandle returns 0
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CMSIDatabase::CloseMSIDatabase(): MsiViewClose returns 0
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: CMSIDatabase::CloseMSIDatabase(): MsiCloseHandle on DB returns 0
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: Setting property 'CA_CRASH_FUNC' from 'NeroAg_PrepareInstall' to '
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: Setting property 'CA_CRASH_THREAD' from '1544' to '
07/04/25 12:54:39 DEBUG: END : NeroAg_PrepareInstall with res = 0


oh and i just tried to instal i with this bat:(only using 1031.mst and no "spezial".mst from orca)

start/wait Redist\DirectX\dxsetup.exe /silent

start/wait msiexec /Inero.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst DONOTRUNSETUPX="1" STARTPARAM="CallFromExe" MSISOURCEFILE="cab\nero.msi" /qb! /L*v mylog.txt

files and system:
new! Nero-7.8.5.0_all_trial.exe(unpacked of course)
win xp sp 2 (up to date)

Answered 04/25/2007 by: senselti
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Hi Akbar,
this command line won't work.
The installer couldn't find some files it needs to install.
MSISOURCEFILE should be only "nero.msi". And start it from the parent directory of the CAB folder.

Another thing: How did you extract this stuff?
Regards, Nick
Answered 04/25/2007 by: nheim
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I can´t believe it he did something ..... what? incredible installed it without any problem.

This time i took the "big" nero 7.8.5.0 installer unpacked it by starting the install and copied
all the files from the temp dir.

you were right.i changed the commandline.

one more step and everything is like i imagine.know i woulde like to insert the serial and to avoid installing the scout.I think i will try it again with orca.

so all thanks so far you´ve been a great help

Answered 04/25/2007 by: senselti
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Hi Akbar,
yes, this one took me while too! :-(

This, because there are a lot of suggestions around, which encourage you to unpack it with WinRar or 7-zip. But this won't work,
because after this around 100 cab-files are missing. They are duplicated from others in one of the first steps, when the installer actually starts.

The property to go for the serial# is: SERIALNUM_userval="xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx"
To disable Scout, there are different approaches, search this forum for it.

Regards, Nick

Answered 04/25/2007 by: nheim
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Hopefully this isn´t just a coincidence but it seems to work i tried it now several times and till now it always worked.
I´ve maked a *.mst file with Orca like Kprinz described and changed everything in there.Dropping a special *dll and upps there is no scout beeing installed.

So Again, thank you all for the assistance,
till a new Nero version comes out

gratefully your senselti
Answered 04/25/2007 by: senselti
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