Hi,

I have an App that requires this version of ISSCRIPT 10.50.0.125
Now I can not find a merge module for this anywhere.

So..

Can I take this dependancy out all together?

or

Can I convert the isscript105.msi to a MSM?

Is there another way to get around this IE:- use 11 MSM instead is it backwards compatable?

Is it safe to GPO isscript105.msi to all puters?

Regards

Dan

PS no pressure or anything but I have to have this done by Friday yeah right!
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ORIGINAL: p4ntb0y
I have an App that requires this version of ISSCRIPT 10.50.0.125
1. Can I take this dependancy out all together?
2. Can I convert the isscript105.msi to a MSM?
3. Is there another way to get around this IE:- use 11 MSM instead is it backwards compatable?
4. Is it safe to GPO isscript105.msi to all puters?

1. It depends on what the vendor is using, function-wise, from the IS DLLs. I have seen MSIs which have no registry or file data and where everything is done via function calls. Check out all the Custom Actions. Most vendors label these with an 'IS' prefix but, as sure as eggs are eggs, YMMV.
2. Yes
3. The MSI may check for a specific version but I don't recall seeing many recently. There may also be differences in parameters passed to the functions called so, in general, if you have to persist with the IS dependency (note spelling! :) ), it's best to keep to the major version. They're quite happy to live side-by-side.
4. Yes.

Lastly, note that some versions of IS are broken in terms of GP deployment because they're COM Identity is set to 'Interactive User' rather than 'Lanching User'. There's a script here on AppDeploy to fix that.
Answered 03/26/2008 by: VBScab
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Thanks VBScab!

Right to recap...

Q1 I have about 13 entries for ISXXX one being ISSETALLUSERS = SETALLUSERS.DLL

Q2 Is this easy to do? can it be done in Wise (I am also googling and checking wise studio 7)

Q3 Leave this alone.

Q4 If I do not have the knowledge to change Q1 and can not do Q2 in time my best bet is to deploy this by GPO first my only concern is that this will be for the entire fleet and I dont fancy living in a cardboard box if it went wrong :-)
Answered 03/26/2008 by: p4ntb0y
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@ bkbelly it was informative!

Ok I now know..

I could create a Two msi install isscript105.msi and then my msi.

I could convert the isscript105.msi into a msn and then apply that msm to my MSI via a MST.

I could deploy just the isscript105.msi via gpo (Would this not be a problem in the future when I want to install another app that requires a different version of isscript?)

@ bkbelly I was looking to do step three in your video so I will have a look at that now and look at converting the msi to a msn.

My app was a single exe that I AIP'ed and then this gave me my MSI but it never gave me the isscript.msi is that normal? it must of been in the exe

Reagrds

Dan
Answered 03/26/2008 by: p4ntb0y
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You can also just download the ISSCRIPT 10.5 already as a merge module rather than having to create one from the .msi
Answered 03/26/2008 by: danr29
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Yes Dan, ISscript is typically included in the setup.exe (which is the main reason the MSI insists that it is used-- to ensure it can install ISscript if necessary). Also, using a merge module is a safe way to go. I typically just deploy the versions of ISscript as part of my baseline image so I can safely remove any dependency checks without encountering problems.
Answered 03/26/2008 by: bkelly
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@ danr29 would you like to care where you can download this from?

I have been looking for three hours :-)

Regards
Answered 03/26/2008 by: p4ntb0y
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Ok I have been reading around that they all have the same guid so doing a gpo for 10.5 is not a good idea for the future.

I having problems creating a MSM from a MSI i have got as far as pulling up the gui merge module template.

How come A people use this pile of c**p! and B why the heck it ain't backwards compatiable I do not know. It's nearly enougth to make me melt my head as I am just learning but theres so mucccchhhh!
Answered 03/26/2008 by: p4ntb0y
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!

After much reading and learning that there is more than one way to skin a cat..

I mannaged to find a MSM 10.x @ 2,512KB.

this one worked for me!!

I opened my MSI in ORCA made a new MST and then imported the merge module and then saved the MST and can now deploy!

Guys thanks!

I would stil like to know how to turn a MSI into a MSN.

Regards

Dan
Answered 03/26/2008 by: p4ntb0y
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ORIGINAL: p4ntb0y
I would stil like to know how to turn a MSI into a MSN.
Dan, what's your principal MSI-authoring tool, Wise or InstallShield? If you reply 'Orca' I may have to kill you.
Answered 03/27/2008 by: VBScab
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Sorry for the late responese been ragged to death at work.

Orca my god no! bad enough with wise :-)

I am using Wise Studio 7 SP2 :-)

Thanks for your time by the way.
Answered 05/08/2008 by: p4ntb0y
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ORIGINAL: p4ntb0y
I would stil like to know how to turn a MSI into a MSN.
In WPS, go 'Tools/Move components into merge module' and follow the prompts.
Answered 05/09/2008 by: VBScab
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