has anyone eval'd the app-dna (app-V) automation suite ?

looks promising would like to see it with something complex.
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John,

I've attended a 'launchpad' course for App-DNA's sofware, AppTitude - is that what you mean?
There is a new version, just released, that I've not seen yet though.

The automattion side of things will bring up a VM, install your MSI silently and capture it using the App-V commandline sequencer and then save the pacakge out.
If batch processing the VM will then revert and the next application is processed.

As the application is not launched during this process there is no FB1 created, and obviously the sequence is only as good as the MSI going in.

The other side of AppTitude is the application readiness reporting, with compatibilty checks for App-V and operating systems etc.

InstallShield 11.5, I believe, provides a similar functionality with automation, and their readiness reporting is based around ChangeBASE AOK.

Hope that helps,

Dunnpy
Answered 05/09/2011 by: dunnpy
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Hi there, to be up front right away, I work for App-DNA, and wanted to chime in about the enhancements brought to the command line sequencer in 4.6 SP1. Dunnpy you have the overall process spot on :-)

I'll paste a bit from the MS Sequencing Guide first of all:

"Creating App-V packages using the command-line interface version of the Sequencer is now easier. Use the argument /LAUNCHALL to open each application in order to create a primary feature block for App-V which helps optimize streaming. Use /LAUNCH: to designate specific applications to open. Use the /LAUNCHSCRIPT argument to automate the launching of specific processes.
Also, you can now make use of the new App-V Package Accelerator and Template features when using the Sequencer command line interface."


So you can get FB1 in your sequences using our automation :-) Further, by using a template (default.sprj) you are able to set up the system in advance so that your environment variables (server, port, protocol etc) are automatically placed in each sequence you create.

If you want more information feel free to get in touch (clayton.doige@app-dna.com)

Cheers

Clayton
Answered 05/11/2011 by: claytond
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Hello - I work for ChangeBASE and thought it would be useful to add a little information about our current release: AOK 4.1. This product has some new features, one of which is particularly relevant to this thread:
We have a new module called "VReady-It" which allows you to convert MSI packages into App-V (or Symantec SWV) format. We drive the sequencer within a virtual machine via code rather than use command lines. This allows us to capture the Feature Block 1 for optimised streaming. We can convert your 100s of MSIs per day using VReady-It.

Also I can confirm that the latest version of Flexera's AdminStudio does include a cut-down version of AOK. Note that this doesn't include VReady-It.

If you need further information please feel free to contact me on ben.cook@changebase.com.
Answered 05/31/2011 by: bcook
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I always use the software. And increased demand from the DNA of the power of DNA data through the integration of information and technical and commercial user model and the automation of all the updates to its application portfolio. The AppTitude always the first name in simplifying application software, compatibility and speed in the performance of DNA migrations.App living in the main theater multimedia share the vision for the program here, along with a bit more about the application of intelligence.
Answered 05/31/2011 by: charles123krik
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Do either of these tools expose APIs that we can hook into ? OR command lets? Or permit PowerShell management ? Would hugely help with automation and management.
Answered 07/22/2011 by: Future_machine
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FM,

The importing of applications and the newer Forward Path reports do allow for scripting to automate and customize the process.

Feel free to contact me or you local account team for more information. We would also love to hear specifics of the things you would be looking to do through external hooks, because if it's not in there now, there's always future releases.


Eric
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Answered 07/22/2011 by: ericserno
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Hi, Is it important to do a launchpad course to work on App-DNA software. Please can you provide the link for the newer version of the software, I ll really appreciate. Is it important to use specific operating system for App-DNA or it will work any operating system.
The website www.app-dna.com says application migrations. Can any one tell me what is this application migration,Can it be used with 32bit and 64bit machine.?
App-DNA provides for virtualization on citrix XenApp, can any one tell me about the citrix, is it about the citrix microprocessor or anything else related to software.
Answered 08/08/2011 by: knevr
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Hello,

Citrix have many different products. One of the most commonly used in called XenApp, and this allows organisations to install applications on a central server, then users can run the applications from their desktop/laptop/phone/tablet without needing to install it locally. It's a great bit of kit. More info on XenApp can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrix_XenApp

ChangeBASE's AOK allows you to automatically test your applications for compatibility with Citrix XenApp, and in many cases apply automated fixing where issues are found. More info here: http://www.changebase.com/products_virtualise_it.aspx

I hope that helps.
Answered 09/29/2011 by: bcook
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knevr,

AppTitude is pretty intuitive to use, so training, like the Launchpad courses we offer our partners is typically unnecessary. If your company already has licenses for AppTitude, the latest version can be downloaded off our customer portal (portal.app-dna.com). When companies first obtain our software we do offer the ability to have someone set it up and provide knowledge transfer.
1. Any (supported, XP and up) operating system can be used to run AppTitude as the analysis is done statically in the database and is not runtime. The app never needs to run on the OS we are planning to test it against. The same holds true for technologies like XenApp, App-V and others that do not need to be up and running to assess their viability. This is one of the many advantages of using AppTitude.
2. “Application Migrations” refers to projects of moving your desktop or server applications to a new platform en masse. Right now of course this is often XP to Windows 7 migrations for desktop apps. AppTitude is used in these cases by probably about half our customers and the other half use it as part of their ongoing business process (BAU – business as usual) for getting applications ready and evaluating new technologies.
3. AppTitude works with 32 bit and 64 bit. It is especially handy because it spots trouble areas for apps that may not play nicely in 64 bit environments.
4. App-DNA closely works with Citrix to make sure AppTitude can validate applications for their technologies such as XenApp and Application Streaming

Hope I helped clear things up. Feel free to post back or email me with any other questions – eric.serno@app-dna.com

Eric
Answered 10/03/2011 by: ericserno
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In addition, it can also provide deep trial, smart repair, based on the report on action, heuristic analysis, full customization, coverage of total real estate and Bao Dai. Application DNA products were selected by the DTRA to provide interoperability with existing computer software, and infrastructure and most importantly cost-effectiveness, reduce migration compatibility issues.
Answered 12/13/2011 by: arnolddepth
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Please can you provide the link for the newer version of the software, I ll really appreciate. Is it important to use specific operating system for App-DNA or it will work any operating system. This is a big win for AppDNA's Venture Capital backers. Yesterday's announcement was a straight win of over 20% on the two funds I hold that had invested in AppDNA's early-stage growth.
Answered 12/23/2011 by: angelinadepth
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