5.3 agent issues...
We upgraded our server to 5.3 on August 6th but didn’t upgrade our clients from 5.1 due to too many bugs in the client. We are still on the 5.1 client which is not completely compatible with the 5.3 server. I can’t begin to tell you how many bugs I’ve found in the 5.3 client, but I’m going to give it a try.
What I don’t get is the fact that the 5.3 agent that is available to KACE customers on the website – and it’s full of bugs. It’s true that I’m venting here, but I personally do not feel comfortable with the KACE agent anymore. I’m stuck with a 5.3 server and a 5.1 client.
KACE – please help and/or get your QA department in order.
Thanks,
David Aldridge - MCTS, MCITP: SQL 2008
Application Support Specialist
- Asset History failed to show when an Installed Application was removed from Inventory. However, it still did report that it found new inventory. – Fixed with a patch.
- The 5.3.x agent will not delete any of the MI installation folders or files. –Known issues but not resolved
- When using a ‘Pre-Install Message’ within an MI, an error message pops up asking for more arguments or arguments are wrong. – Issue has been resolved. There were spaces in our company name with the KACE server that caused the issue.
- The Asset History on an Inventory item is being truncated within the GUI. Only 50 line items will appear. The last line states: "And XX more software items found in inventory." – Fixed with a patch.
- Many issues related to deploying MI’s.
- When inventorying a workstation, KACE finds a new application to add to the Software table. For some reason, the agent does not pull the registry info like comments, Uninstall String, etc.
What I don’t get is the fact that the 5.3 agent that is available to KACE customers on the website – and it’s full of bugs. It’s true that I’m venting here, but I personally do not feel comfortable with the KACE agent anymore. I’m stuck with a 5.3 server and a 5.1 client.
KACE – please help and/or get your QA department in order.
Thanks,
David Aldridge - MCTS, MCITP: SQL 2008
Application Support Specialist
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Posted by:
diverdaveman1
12 years ago
I installed the latest 5.3 client running against a 5.3.45496 server. Right off the bat, an MI would not install at bootup and I couldn't get an MI to install after bootup. Obviously more testing is needed. I'm upgrading the server tonight to the latest.
I'll give my feed back towards the end of the week.
Dave
I'll give my feed back towards the end of the week.
Dave
Posted by:
gochjj
12 years ago
I agree. It is very frustrating. Not only is the 5.3 agent full of bugs, but I have seen at least a ten-fold increase in the time the 5.3 agent takes to run an inventory.
Posted by:
LanhamA
12 years ago
ORIGINAL: diverdaveman1
We upgraded our server to 5.3 on August 6th but didn’t upgrade our clients from 5.1 due to too many bugs in the client. We are still on the 5.1 client which is not completely compatible with the 5.3 server. I can’t begin to tell you how many bugs I’ve found in the 5.3 client, but I’m going to give it a try.Moving to the 5.3 has been so frustrating for us. We have to spend tons of hours testing each agent version only to find a bug was not fixed or a new bug has appeared. I have worked extensively with a couple KACE developers for the past couple of months. They have been very nice and helpful, but whoever is doing the QA’ing on the clients is not doing a good enough job.
- Asset History failed to show when an Installed Application was removed from Inventory. However, it still did report that it found new inventory. – Fixed with a patch.
- The 5.3.x agent will not delete any of the MI installation folders or files. –Known issues but not resolved
- When using a ‘Pre-Install Message’ within an MI, an error message pops up asking for more arguments or arguments are wrong. – Issue has been resolved. There were spaces in our company name with the KACE server that caused the issue.
- The Asset History on an Inventory item is being truncated within the GUI. Only 50 line items will appear. The last line states: "And XX more software items found in inventory." – Fixed with a patch.
- Many issues related to deploying MI’s.
- When inventorying a workstation, KACE finds a new application to add to the Software table. For some reason, the agent does not pull the registry info like comments, Uninstall String, etc.
What I don’t get is the fact that the 5.3 agent that is available to KACE customers on the website – and it’s full of bugs. It’s true that I’m venting here, but I personally do not feel comfortable with the KACE agent anymore. I’m stuck with a 5.3 server and a 5.1 client.
KACE – please help and/or get your QA department in order.
Thanks,
David Aldridge - MCTS, MCITP: SQL 2008
Application Support Specialist
What patch ended up fixing the asset history issue? We are on the latest version from the website, but I wasn't sure if they had any unreleased fixes to this or what
Posted by:
diverdaveman1
12 years ago
I think the SP1 fixed it. You might want to check with support though.
Here is the link to the KB article:
http://www.kace.com/support/kb/index.php?action=artikel&cat=1&id=1119&artlang=en&highlight=53
Here is the link to download SP1:
http://downloads.kace.com/support/downloads/5.3/k1000_server_5.3.45497.kbin
Once again - I'm not telling you to install this. Make sure you ask support first.
Dave
Here is the link to the KB article:
http://www.kace.com/support/kb/index.php?action=artikel&cat=1&id=1119&artlang=en&highlight=53
Here is the link to download SP1:
http://downloads.kace.com/support/downloads/5.3/k1000_server_5.3.45497.kbin
Once again - I'm not telling you to install this. Make sure you ask support first.
Dave
Posted by:
RichB
12 years ago
Asset History failed to show when an Installed Application was removed from Inventory. However, it still did report that it found new inventory.  – Fixed with a patch.
This is still an issue with server 5.3.45497. Rumor has it there is a 5.4 client in the works...
Posted by:
dogfish182
12 years ago
I'm in your situation, I'm rolling back today and repairing my managed installs to work with the 5.1 agent again. but the server is already 5.3. As far as I can tell this doesn't cause many issues, but I haven't done extensive testing. But I would recommend to anyone considering the 5.3 agent to AVOID. It is in no way ready for release and flatout doesn't work.
Posted by:
olav
12 years ago
ORIGINAL: diverdaveman1
We upgraded our server to 5.3 on August 6th but didn’t upgrade our clients from 5.1 due to too many bugs in the client. We are still on the 5.1 client which is not completely compatible with the 5.3 server. I can’t begin to tell you how many bugs I’ve found in the 5.3 client, but I’m going to give it a try.ÂÂ
Are the problems you listed for the 5.3 client or the 5.1 client/5.3 server combination? I am on the fence regarding updating to 5.3, very interesting to read about your experiences.
Posted by:
diverdaveman1
12 years ago
My recommendation is to stay away from both the 5.3 server and agent. I was told by development that the 5.3 server and 5.1 agent was not fully compatible - and I can vouch for that - especially in the MI area. The 5.3 agent is full of bugs as you can tell from the many posts in this forum. We depend on KACE heavily for inventory and patching. At this point we have spent countless hours test and re-testing different 5.3 agents only be be frustrated by new bugs.
If you do upgrade - TEST EVERYTHING and then TEST SOME MORE!!!
Dave
If you do upgrade - TEST EVERYTHING and then TEST SOME MORE!!!
Dave
Posted by:
pcbhelpdesk
12 years ago
Found these postings too late.
All my scripts and deployments have ceased to function.
yes - the agent takes 10 times longer to Inventory.
My advice - stay away from 5.3 ANYTHING.
We are going to back to manual installations.....................
All my scripts and deployments have ceased to function.
yes - the agent takes 10 times longer to Inventory.
My advice - stay away from 5.3 ANYTHING.
We are going to back to manual installations.....................
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
We have found the cause of longer inventories in 5.3. It was related to the 5.3 information store. Checking on an ETA for it.
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
This optimization will be in the 5.3 L10N ap1 release. On a poor-performing test machine we went from 12 minutes to 25 seconds for the data collection.
Posted by:
diverdaveman1
12 years ago
Any thoughts as to when the next release will be? I know they announced at the Konference it would be released towards the end of November - which has passed.
Just wondering...
Just wondering...
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
Yes that will be in February (ETA) ref: http://www.kace.com/support/kb/#news_65
A K1000 patch is currently scheduled for release in early February and will be available to our global K1000 customer base.The patch will include a number of server & agent improvements, as well as several crucial bug fixes. Key patch changes will include:
FYI, this headline (and other news) should also appear on your home tab in your kbox (if it's conneted to internet)
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A K1000 patch is currently scheduled for release in early February and will be available to our global K1000 customer base.The patch will include a number of server & agent improvements, as well as several crucial bug fixes. Key patch changes will include:
- Support for Mac Lion 10.7.2
- Windows inventory performance improvements
- Better Windows logged-in user detection
- Additional agent failure recovery capabilities
FYI, this headline (and other news) should also appear on your home tab in your kbox (if it's conneted to internet)
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Posted by:
jmhj
12 years ago
I am so frustrated with this. We are just deploying a new K1100 and are having all kinds of problem with the agents. I wish I had known this before setting a time line for the deployment. Very frustrating.
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
jmhj, there are some scenarios where a 5.1 agent would be better. You could have a mix in your environment too. What are the issues you are seeing? Do you have a test environment? Would you have the ability to test/ compare 5.1 / 5.3 in that environment?
Posted by:
jmhj
12 years ago
First thing is not all the clients are reporting in. The inventory xml file is created but they agent isn't sending it correctly and the computer never shows in inventory. This is not true for all. It does not matter if I push the agent or manually install it. I have tried deleting the reg keys, uninstalling, etc. So we have some machines working. Seems that it doesn't matter the Win version either. We have not been able to do our initial meeting as part of our JumpStart Program because our inside Dell guy is out on medical leave and the email address he sent in his auto reply for an alternate contact is bad. My sells rep says it will be after the first of the year. So I have to figure out how the heck to get a support login so I can login in and get to the an alternate agent. I plan on calling support today unless there is away around all this that you can share so I can to get to the agents. Testing should be no problem.
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
if you have a support contract then support will give you a temporary login to access the software you need.
Posted by:
aragorn.2003
12 years ago
as you can see in the following article (http://www.kace.com/support/kb/#news_65) an update should released in early february, but what means early february. now we have the 10th of february and no update available.
the problem is, that there is no extact roadmap or a release date. thats very frustrating.
what we want to know is
- when the multi distro agent will be release
- when changes on the help desk will come
but we didn´t find any information.
the problem is, that there is no extact roadmap or a release date. thats very frustrating.
what we want to know is
- when the multi distro agent will be release
- when changes on the help desk will come
but we didn´t find any information.
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
Like a map when you hit a detour the route and ETA changes. The latest release candidate did not fully pass testing which is the reason for the delay. Barring any major detours the 5.3 L10N sp1 release is imminent.
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
I wish I could give you a better answer, but still imminent. Meaning it could be tomorrow, but no guarantee.
Posted by:
sramsey
12 years ago
I see server version 5.3.53053 and client version 5.3.53177 available for download today. Time for testing!
Posted by:
Arcolite
12 years ago
I'm interested to hear feedback from those who have upgraded. After 5.3 I'm a little wary of upgrading just yet...
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
We do not test newer clients against older servers.
Also if you have issues with the latest please open a new thread about 5.3L10N sp1 (server patch 1 ) or ap1 (agent patch 1)
Also if you have issues with the latest please open a new thread about 5.3L10N sp1 (server patch 1 ) or ap1 (agent patch 1)
Posted by:
diverdaveman1
12 years ago
Is there any documentation to state which version client works with certain server versions?
I'm not trying to be a smarty-pants, but does KACE expect all it's clients to be on the latest and greatest version for both client and server?
I'm not trying to be a smarty-pants, but does KACE expect all it's clients to be on the latest and greatest version for both client and server?
Posted by:
GillySpy
12 years ago
We test the last two versions against the server. I believe that is stated somewhere. 5.3GA, 5.3L10N and 5.3L10N sp1 was designed so that 5.2 agents could connect to it.
Informally we probably do a lot of older agents connecting and being able to at least update.
Informally we probably do a lot of older agents connecting and being able to at least update.
Posted by:
svierneisel
12 years ago
We are currently running server version 5.2.38773 and agent version 5.1.38724. Question is, when they release the new update in February, will it be a straight upgrade to it or do you have to upgrade in intervals?
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